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			<title>dB on "Art vs. Craft"</title>
			<link>http://www.limnersociety.com/forum/topic/art-vs-craft#post-73</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 01:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>dB</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I have been wrestling with this topic for a while.  Here is a link to a good article that has some good follow up conversations via comments.&#60;br /&#62;
I would enjoy a similar discussion here, while keeping in mind the shared worldview we maintain.&#60;br /&#62;
Why is it important (or not) to make these distinctions?&#60;br /&#62;
Would this help others understand the value found in art and art making?&#60;br /&#62;
Would the Church value art differently if they had a good idea of this distinction?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://forum.objectivismonline.net/index.php?showtopic=3260&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://forum.objectivismonline.net/index.php?showtopic=3260&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Not intrigued by the premise?  Here is a quote from Ayn Rand from the article:  &#34;Art is the selective re-creation of reality according to an artist's metaphysical value judgments.&#34;
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			<title>dB on "Intersections"</title>
			<link>http://www.limnersociety.com/forum/topic/intersections-1#post-39</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>dB</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Use this discussion or create new ones about places you find intersections between visual art and Christian faith.
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			<title>Matt2theG on "Seeking Community"</title>
			<link>http://www.limnersociety.com/forum/topic/seeking-community#post-139</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 07:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Matt2theG</dc:creator>
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			<description>I watched Astrid's youtube video a couple of times and went to her post at:&#60;br /&#62;
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&#60;a href=&#34;http://skepticfreethought.com/2011/08/outer-space-to-inner-space/#disqus_thread&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://skepticfreethought.com/2011/08/outer-space-to-inner-space/#disqus_thread&#60;/a&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
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and left a comment of my own.  I think my initial reaction to Astrid's comments was one of embarrassment for the church.  Almost a, &#34;Yeah, been there, done that.&#34; response.   But after listening a second time and reading her blog post I thought, &#34;Aren't all religions, even atheism, exclusive?&#34;  I mean all belief systems have exclusive claims, rites and rituals - the things that make the adherents... well. Adherents.  Who knows if there were people along the way that tried to explain the &#34;whys&#34; or &#34;hows&#34; of religion.&#60;br /&#62;
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It is ultimately sad that she has invested so much time into study and still admits that she has not found the reason for faith.&#60;br /&#62;
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Thoughts?</description>
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			<title>Matt2theG on "SEEDlings and LIMNERings..."</title>
			<link>http://www.limnersociety.com/forum/topic/seedlings-and-limnerings#post-132</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Matt2theG</dc:creator>
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			<description>Here's a place to share what has been happening in response to the SEED initiative or what has been happening where you have been Limnering...&#60;br /&#62;
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I'm excited about daniel's invitation to get us thinking more Limner-esque.  I am a relative new-bee to Limner and this initiative has been a boost to thinking more intentionally about my personal walk, my relationships and my artwork.&#60;br /&#62;
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It was also an honor to take part in the discussion concerning tLS' mission statement which gets to the point of what it means to be a Limner.&#60;br /&#62;
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I wanted to share a little story about my recent &#34;Limnerings&#34;.&#60;br /&#62;
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This past spring I hosted an event I hosted an art gallery in Chicago.  In retrospect, the event reflected the Limner heart.  The purpose was to bring artists together of a similar passion to open a dialogue on how to live out this mission statement in their lives.&#60;br /&#62;
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That evening I met &#34;Andrew&#34; who is a very intelligent and creative guy.  One of those true hybrids who can travel between both hemispheres of their brain with ease.  Anyway, during our conversation I picked up on some hints that he may profit from a continued conversation.  Since then we have scheduled a regular phone call to discuss intentional topics in his growth as an artist and a believer.  I can't tell you how fun those calls are.  For those of you who know me I am not naturally gregarious and I find it difficult to do the small talk thing. I'm glad that the Lord gave me the courage to pursue this connection with Andrew.  I have been blessed by it and I think he has as well.&#60;br /&#62;
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I'd really appreciate hearing from all of you on whatever Limnerings you have been experiencing.  I think it is important for us to share these &#34;testimonials&#34; with each other.  I know I often I don't think the incidentals would be very interesting for others.  I know I'd like to get to know the Limner's better ... what better way then sharing stories of being Limners???&#60;br /&#62;
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I know Steffan musty have some crazy stories!!!&#60;br /&#62;
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Matt Guilford</description>
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			<title>Matt2theG on "What does evangelism and discipleship look like in the Arts?"</title>
			<link>http://www.limnersociety.com/forum/topic/what-does-evangelism-and-discipleship-look-like-in-the-arts#post-92</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Matt2theG</dc:creator>
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			<description>Let's generate a discussion thread about this topic?  It is something that I have been focused on now for the past five years.  I feel like I have made very little headway and it would be nice to get some real strong opinion and insight into this area.  My integration point is that we, as followers of Christ, have been given a ministry of reconciliation (II Corinthians 5:11-21).  This ministry should never be seen as one dimensional and lacking in concern for people, relations and the faithful stewardship of our artistic talents.&#60;br /&#62;
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Thoughts?&#60;br /&#62;
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Matt</description>
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			<title>dB on "Encouragement"</title>
			<link>http://www.limnersociety.com/forum/topic/encouragement-1#post-40</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>dB</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Use this discussion or start a new one to share encouragement for visual artists of faith.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Inspirational quotes, scripture, poems, or simply words from your heart will go a long way to lift up an artist when they need a boost.
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			<title>dB on "Techniques"</title>
			<link>http://www.limnersociety.com/forum/topic/techniques-1#post-38</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>dB</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Use this discussion or start a new one to discuss different techniques you employ to make art.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Share special tricks you have learned.&#60;br /&#62;
Pass on technical applications that help you make art.&#60;br /&#62;
Tell about equipment that you use and how you use it.
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			<title>dB on "Pricing your artwork"</title>
			<link>http://www.limnersociety.com/forum/topic/pricing-your-artwork#post-42</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>dB</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I get asked often by other artists, &#34;How do you price your artwork?&#34;  It is one of the hardest questions to answer because prices are determined by so many factors.  I usually have to ask the artist several questions just to begin to find an answer.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I recently ran across an article that is helpful to establishing the foundation for finding the answer to this question.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;However, there is a component missing from this article: the gallery.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;When you establish prices and begin selling, remember that when and if you decide to sell your work through a gallery, there is a 100% markup. So I often tell people to establish what their bottom line &#34;artist take&#34; will be on the work.  Then the actual fair market value of that work is double that number.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;You can sell your work out of your studio at the &#34;artist take&#34; if you are not represented anywhere in the marketplace.  I call this the &#34;studio price.&#34;  However, once you are selling in the marketplace, it is unfair, and I would argue unethical, to sell at the studio price anymore.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Remember this as you read this article...
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			<title>dB on "Materials"</title>
			<link>http://www.limnersociety.com/forum/topic/materials-1#post-37</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>dB</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Use this discussion or create new ones to discuss artist materials and their usage.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Share you favorite art supplies and suppliers.&#60;br /&#62;
Tell us different usage of materials that you have found helpful.
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			<title>dB on "Forum Guidelines"</title>
			<link>http://www.limnersociety.com/forum/topic/forum-guidelines-2#post-36</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>dB</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Please use this forum with civility and respect.  We would like to keep our forum informative and encouraging.  Criticism and healthy dialog is welcome, but remain respectful of all parties.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If you happen to see something that needs addressed by tLS, please post to this discussion.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thanks for using our forum.
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